Minutes of the DLS: October 30, 1997

 

The Minutes of The Demosthenian Literary Society

October 30th, 1997

       OK.  You'll have to use your brains quite a bit to figure this whole thing out.  Imagine it:  Demosthenian, only the Middle Ages.  The thing is, this type of situation would sort of rule, you know.  Instead of debating everything into the ground, we could just call our squires to bring our horses around, and handle things the way real members should:  with a joust.  Oh yeah, and then there's that whole issue of who "us" would be...I mean, really, it would be just us suit of armor-wearin' type of folks around; that's right, just us fellas, and Ann Mingledorff (Don't mess with her...She's a mean one...).  So in any case, Demosthenian would be a great deal different; I'll let you decide whether or not this difference is for the best.

      Anyway, in this type of organization, we'd have a king instead of a president.  Therefore, our faithful leader is no longer, HortMan, the prez, but King HortMan.  Well, as all kings do, King HortMan feels the need to do really ridiculous stuff, just to make his tenure seem even more glorious.  Consequently, one day, all of his faithful Demosthenians were called to his throne room.

      Amid the dim lights and sorority girls, the King addressed all of his faithful subjects:  "Ya see here folks, we need to do somethin' just so that we all keep on looking like we know what the heck is going on.  So, do ya'll have any ideas?"

      With that, Norm of Norman piped up, "Let's have a Crusade!!"

      After much grumbling and arguing and coughing and scratching and organ music, all of the fellas, plus that whole not a fella person all decided that a Crusade was exactly what everybody needed.  So, with not much ado, the motley tribe rounded up provisions, and began its journey.  No real goal was evident, and so they left and headed on down the road mysteriously known as Lumpkin. 

 

      The meeting was called to order at 7:25 PM, and the Society was joined by first time guests Brian Crawford and Laura Stevenson.  The Society was also joined by a second time guest, Justin Sanders.  Also, the lighthouse for all wayward Demosthenians was present:  after seeing Mr. Wells (Alum) in attendance, I have a feeling that all of us will be scared straight from the craggy shore of life-long Demosthenian involvement.  Mr. Bowman was appointed to be Critic, and the Society moved into Committee Reports.

Mr. Bowman took the floor as Treasurer, and stated that he had recently received an account statement from the University Foundation, and that everything was just about like he though it would turn out.

The Society zoomed through Old Business, just for Ms. Shillington, who eagerly leapt to the floor following the Society's move into New Business.  She began her speech by detailing the summer-long saga of how some Athens-Clarke County police officers hog-tied an overly aggressive suspect, who died from asphyxiation as a result of his restraints.  Following this act, a beat reporter for the local paper began hounding the officers for the incident, but it later was revealed that the same reporter had been arrested for DUI a few months prior by one of the implicated officers.  This reporter was subsequently fired, causing the speaker to pose the following resolution:

      Be it Resolved:  Objectivity is an attainable idea for the media.

                              Respectfully,

                              Donna Shillington

According to the speaker, the paper was correct in its actions, for objectivity needed to be preserved.

Mr. Bowman argued that though objectivity is a noble goal, it can become nothing but just that due to the nature of the human beings that report the news.  Ultimately, what is printed is left to the choosing of a small number of people:  they choose what they think the public would have the most interest for.  Therefore, bias is inherent within the system.

Mr. Weaver stated that people want the new media to be fair because objectivity is almost as elusive as altruism.  Both are worthy ideals, but are ignored out of one;s own self-interest.

Mr. Shumaker asserted that the news media generally tries to be fair, but cannot be completely objective due to space and cost limitations.  By presenting all sides of the story, and by presenting even the most marginally newsworthy story, it would take a great more time/space to tell the story.  In short, the media could be objective, if we wanted them to be as consumers.

Mr. Pyrdum stated that objectivity was an attainable goal, for there is always one section of the paper that is completely objective:  the weather forecast.

Mr. Wells (alum) argued that journalism is an art; to be successful in journalism, one must make choices, and present the news through the lens of a reporter.  This lens can be good, and can maintain society, or it can be bad, and attempt to make a buck off other people.  In this way, it is neither a desirable or attainable goal for the media to be objective.

      The question was called, and passed on a vote of 6-5.

      Mr. Stevenson, donning his lab coat and engineer's cap, took the floor and presented the following resolution:

      Be it Resolved:  Human DNA, be it genetic or somatic, should not be artificially altered.

                              Respectfully,

                              David Stevenson

The speaker educated the Society on all of the science inherent within the resolution, and then argued that it would be wrong to genetically alter adult human beings.  By treating patients in this way, only the condition would be treated, while the same genetic illnesses remain to plague the offspring.

Mr. Pyrdum, never afraid to have clash in the debate, argued against the presenter's notions of genetic engineering.  If we do not use this technology, many kids will die due to having multiple copies of potentially fatal genes.  In this sense, it would be tough to be providing the best for our children if we do not allow them to receive this treatment.

Mr. Bowman stated that just because we have technology that has advanced to this point does not necessarily mean that we must use it now.  If we do not understand the full social, philosophical and future ramifications of using this technology, then we probably shouldn't use it.

Ms. Shillington told of the possible unknown effects of the DNA correction.  If we move too fast, then we may have a huge clean-up ahead of us, but she still supports the resolution, as long as the technology stays in the lab for a while longer.

Ms. Visser put the resolution in terms of LeConte Hall, and the mysterious cancers that were caused by careless dumping of chemicals behind the building before the effects of such actions were known.  In short, we won't know the full effects of this technology for several generations, and empirically, by taking away obstacles to human life, bad things have happened.

Mr. Weaver stated that he hates science, because scientists refuse to consider the effects of what the do.  By making children less prone to this type of disease, humans are messing with natural selection, and possibly leading to world overpopulation.

Mr. Bloomfield argued that by providing children with vaccinations, we are tampering with life to the same degree that we would if we used genetic engineering.  In this case, which one would be morally correct?

Mr. Shumaker asked "how we can we ever know if we are ready to use a particular technology?"  Every good has a bad side to it, and to make rational decisions, we must weigh the probability of the good happening versus the chance the bad will happen.  In this case, we have no real idea of what would happen, so we really cannot evaluate the question.

Mr. Sanders (guest) stated that it would be great if we could see the effects of genetically altering life right away; unfortunately we cannot.  The speaker cited the Irish potato famine, and the ability of native species to ward off disease better than to simply have one genome to work from.  In this case, by becoming more genetically similar, man becomes more susceptible to catastrophic diseases.

Mr. Stevenson asked if we wanted to create the perfect human race.  By undertaking genetic engineering, we eliminate natural selection, the mechanism that generally weeds out harmful mutant alleles.

Mr. Pyrdum stated that we have one debate like this a year, and that he was going to take advantage of it while he could.  He said a lot of biological jargon that this here Secretary could not understand, and I would like to ask him to explain (slowly) his speech later.

Mr. Pratt (guest) argued that biogenetic engineering will happen; the more money that we put into this program, the more minds will be put into it, and the safer it will become.  In short, the technology exists, and by having an incentive to use the technology, we will use the technology, and by using the technology, we will find out more about it.

      The question was called and passed on a vote of 9-7.

Mr. Bowman took the floor and presented the following resolution:

      Be it Resolved:  The 1998 All-Night Meeting should be moved from Friday to Saturday following the Hall Re-Dedication.

                              Respectfully,

                              Derek Bowman

The speaker argued that we needed to put our best foot forward on the Hall Re-Dedication, and by having this event nine hours after the end of the All-Night Meeting, it would be very difficult to do just that.  If we have the two events scheduled in this way, we would not be giving our best to those that really matter, the alumni and large donors.

Mr. Weaver read a written statement that he had composed concerning his feelings towards the whole situation.  He stated that actions were taken in bad faith, and that everybody had an opportunity to voice these concerns a long time ago.  He then resigned as Programs Committee Chair.

Ms. Brignac stated that the All-Night Meeting is very important on the grounds of maintaining a valuable tradition.  It is our tradition, and it is ridiculous to move it.

Mr. Pyrdum argued that we stand on this day, and this day alone when we decide what is best for the Society.  In short, tradition is something to follow when you have nothing else to go on.  We must give our best effort for the Re-Dedication, and by having the events scheduled in the manner mandated by the resolution, we would allow old alumni to become Demsothenians again.

Mr. Wells (alum)  asserted that regardless of what day we have the two events, we must be active in attempting to get alumni back for both. 

Ms. Visser argued that this resolution was brought up in very bad faith, and was in every sense sabotage.  By having both events in one day, it would be logistically impossible, and it also detracts from both events.

Mr. Smiley stated that there are no right reasons to move the meeting.  We are all adults, and we can all handle being tired, and we can all be responsible enough to handle ourselves appropriately the night before.

Mr. Weaver told the Society of a 5-hour Committee Meeting that he had, and that some of those in favor of the resolution were not in attendance at that meeting.

Mr. Pyrdum created an analogy between this resolution and having parents over to see a new apartment before the crazy house-warming party. By having the two events on the same day, the two complement and add to each other by allowing the older alumni to fully participate in both.

      At this point and time, let it be hereby noted that Your Dashing Secretary has yet again foiled any sort of precedent of decorum and/or non-chauvinism on the bench by surrounding himself with Ms. Shillington and Ms. Richie.  Its good to be the king...

Mr. Hortman argued that good intentions have been wasted on both sides, and that fighting about this type of thing during the meeting is not the best way to solve the problem.  The issue should be hammered out in committees.

Ms. Mingledorff took the floor wearing a lot of hats.  This type of Re-Dedication does not come along very often, and so the afternoon time for this event will allow it to be set apart, and make it stand out.  Out of control drinking at this meeting could cost her her job, and responsibility needs to be exercised by everyone in order to maintain the proper decorum for the entire evening.  By keeping the two on separate days, we can all savor the moment in each.

      The question was called and failed, on a vote of 4-7.

      Mr. Norman took the floor with an evil gleam in his eye and presented the following resolution:

      Be it Resolved:  Halloween is not evil nor the work of the devil.

                        Respectfully submitted,

                        Adam L. Norman

The presenter argued that Halloween was a fun and frivolous holiday, contrary to those that feel that it is a tribute to the forces of evil everywhere.  All Halloween exists as is a way for people to have fun and to scare each other a little bit once a year.

Ms. Brignac stated that Halloween was indeed evil, and that was why she liked it so much.  She told the Society of how she and a friend were dressing up in Catholic School Uniforms, a definitively evil proposition...A proposition so evil that I will have to remember that image the next time I'm in that middle chair...

Mr. Shumaker took the floor an proclaimed that he was indeed the devil, and that he really had nothing to do with it all.  Of course, this assertion could all be a lie, and that the devil has everything to do with Halloween.  Anyway, it is on this occasion that people take the opportunity to have some fun; not something that is in anyway the work of the devil.

Mr. Bowman argued that Halloween was evil because we are neglecting our responsibility to visit our dead relatives that rise from their graves on that night.  Instead of feeding them, we go out and trick-or-treat, leaving them to starve.

Mr. Weaver stated that Halloween was evil because it taught children to beg through Trick-or Treating.  In this sense, Hallmark "pimps" us out to make a quick buck.

      The question was called and failed, on a vote of 5-3.

      The meeting adjourned at 11:13 PM following Mr. Bowman's Critic's Report.

 

The Crusaders trudged down the road, wondering what exactly they were crusading for.  Unfortunately, not even Sir Bert of Guy could figure out what to get all morally indignant about, even though that is his life's work.  Soon enough, Sir Dave the Naked announced, "I'm hungry.  Let's go over to my place and get something to eat and get naked."

After some consternation, the not-so-merry men plus Ann decided that they didn't have anything better to do, and that their armor was beginning to chafe.  With that they headed down the road towards Castle Stevenson, also known as, "Zee Louve Chaque." (That's Olde English, and stuff...)

At this point, one of the knights who prefers to joust verbally seemed to be overcome with a type of paranoia.  Derek of Bowman appeared horribly distracted an concerned.  His pal, Sir Carlahad, asked, "What's the matter...Did you lose your Plato or something?"

Derek of Bowman calmly replied, "It is close...Never before have I felt it so strong or so near, but an overwhelming feeling of darkness seems to be descending over me."

Norm the Norman, always one to look for adventure, announced that finding this type of darkness, defeating it completely, and making the poor creature run for miles in a futile attempt to overcome its own shame was exactly what Demosthenian needed.  The only dissenter was Sir Slone, the Complainer, who said, "It is cold out...I hate fighting evil when its cold out."  With that, Derek of Bowman seemed hypnotized, muttering a strange mantra of "She RULES!!  She does!!," and staggering about all in the direction of a cave set into the side of the cliff.  Soon, using crampons and other mountain climbing gear, the brave knights made it up to the summit, and there emerged a sound most horrifying:  "You are mesmerized by me, NO?!"

It was the Donnamal.  At that point, the whole group knew that things would never be the same again.

 

Come back next week for the battle royale between Stalwart Demosthenian and the elusive, evil Donnamal...I promise it'll be good.

 

Respectfully submitted this sixth day of November, 1997

Michael J. Shumaker