Minutes of the DLS: June 6, 1996

 

Minutes of the Special Constitutional Meeting of the Demosthenian Society

June 6, 1996

The meeting was called to order at 7:03.  A motion was made and passed to change the order of business and begin in Old Business.  The floor was open, and Mr. Stuart rose to explain why this meeting was official, according to Robert's Rules and the existing Constitution.  He informed the Society that all votes taken under quorum that evening would be official, and we should treat them as such.  Ms. Spornberger rose next to explain the procedure for the evening, including the votes necessary to pass the amendments and the need to maintain quorum.

She also explained that no major changes were made to the Preamble, and that the new list of signees to the Constitution will be added as a footnote to the new Constitution.

The Preamble amendment was untabled and passed 14-0.

Ms. Spornberger took the floor to say that the only change to Article One was the change of Demosthenian Society to DLS, and further noted that these amendments as presented could be amended from the floor before voting on them.

Article One was untabled, and Mr. Van Meter took the floor to disagree with the previous speaker's interpretation of the Constitution regarding amendments of constitutional amendments.  He noted that amendments are tabled for a week for a reason, and that any changes to them after that week would violate the spirit of that notification.

Mr. Pyrdum rose to disagree with Mr. Van Meter's understanding of the situation, citing several passages in Robert's Rules that explained the procedure for amending constitutional amendments and that the amendment could not be more drastic than that previously presented.

Without much resolution on this issue, the question was called and Article One was amended by a vote of 14-0.

Article Two was untabled, and Ms. Spornberger took the floor to explain the changes made to it by the committee.  The new version was divided into sections, stated which quarters in which the Society would hold meetings, discussed Summer Quarter meetings, and included our use of Robert's Rules, which had been elsewhere in the Constitution. 

The question was called and Article Two was amended by a vote of 12-0.

Mr. Pyrdum took the floor to explain that there were no major changes to Article Three, and it was untabled, called, and passed by a vote of 13-0.

Article IV was untabled and Ms. Spornberger took the floor to explain the changes made to the Order of Business.  She said that several things had been moved so that they would occur before Programs, since we had frequently been moving these to better run the meeting.  Also, adjournment procedure was clarified in the new version, and a recognition of alumni present was added.

Mr. Stuart rose and objected to leaving the petitioning process after Programs, since such a change would more completely justify the Constitution with the way we have done things in recent meetings.

Mr. Pyrdum addressed the previous suggestion, saying that it would be a more drastic change and thus such an amendment would be out of order.  Also, he suggested that the long time commitment presented by petitioning fit better with the other events occurring after Programs.

Mr. Van Meter echoed many of the previous speaker's arguments, giving specific examples of meetings in which it would have been better to have petitionings after Programs.

The question was called and passed 11-1.

Article Five was untabled and presented by Mr. Pyrdum, who addressed the many changes proposed by the amendment.  He spoke about the reasons for changing leaves of absences to being granted by the Society rather than the President. 

This debate raged on for several minutes, and due to the vague nature of the Minutes kept at this time, I will give a general overview of the debate.  Some members were worried about the potential for abuse by the membership of such a vote, and suggested that under certain circumstances a majority of members would refuse to grant a leave of absence in hopes of eliminating a person from the rolls.  Others stated that this would be a membership problem, not a constitutional one, and that this potential for abuse exists under the current Constitution to an equal, if not greater extent.  Another concern was the vague language defining a leave of absence as "the duration of a quarter (or the equivalent of ten weeks)."  Speaking against section 10 were Mr. Stuart, Ms. Sullivan, and Mr. Hortman.  Ms. Spornberger, Mr. Bowman, Mr. Pyrdum, and Mr. Van Meter defended the existing language. Mr. Hodgins began to speak but then realized he shouldn't have. Eventually, Section 10 was divided from the rest of the amendment and tabled, and the remainder of Article Five passed 10-2.

Article Six was untabled and Ms. Spornberger explained that very few changes had been made.  The question was called and the amendment passed 11-0.

Article Seven was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum noted that the point requirements for President (and all other officers) had been changed to be consistent with the new "base-1" point system.  Also, the requirement for the President to read Masefield's History of the English Universities  was changed to mandating that he or she read the section of College Life in the Old South referring to the debating societies.  Also, some minor changes were made to the Adlatus section, allowing him or her to speak whenever necessary.  The question was called and it passed 11-0.

Article Eight was untabled and Ms. Spornberger took the floor to note that the Vice President would appoint both committee chairs and committee members under the new Constitution.  Also, she praised Mr. Pyrdum's effort in degenderizing the language used throughout the document.  The question was called and the article was amended 11-0.

Article Nine was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum told us little was changed beyond some reorganization.  The amendment was called and passed 11-0

Article Ten was untabled and Ms. Spornberger told us there were no real changes made.  It was called and passed 12-0.

Article Eleven was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum noted that the only change in this section was the granting of an additional key to the Treasurer to use when renting out the Hall.

Ms. Sullivan rose and spoke about her personal desire to pass this amendment, relating her experience as a past Treasurer.


The question was called and passed 11-0. 

Article Twelve was untabled and Ms. Spornberger said that the only major change was the addition of two Historian's assistants to aid him or her with taking pictures, etc.  The question was called and passed 12-1.

Article Thirteen was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum explained the addition of an extra key to be given to the Sergeant at Arms to open up the Hall to renters, as this was also his duty.  He saw this as a failsafe, making sure that either the Treasurer or Sgt. At Arms would be there, with a key, and open up the Hall.

Mr. Van Meter took the floor to object to this added duty of the Sgt. At Arms.  While he understood the need for renters to be able to get into the Hall, he thought that it showed a lack of trust in the Society's officers to give two individuals the same duty and was a confusing contradiction that would be puzzling to future members.

Section Four dealing with this duty and the granting of a key to the Sgt. At Arms was divided and tabled, and the remainder of the Article was passed 12-0.

Article Fourteen was untabled and Ms. Spornberger rose to note the addition of a Librarian's address and the separation of the Librarian and Custodian sections into two Articles.  The question was called and passed 13-0.

Article Fifteen was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum rose to say that everything was the same here.  The article was passed 13-0.

Article Sixteen was untabled and Ms. Spornberger said there were absolutely no changes here.  It was passed 11-2.

Article Seventeen was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum took the floor to note that the explanation of voting by ball and vase had been moved to traditions, the method for absentee voting was clarified, and a section was included to allow those on a leave of absence to run for office for the quarter following their LOA.  The article was passed 12-0.

Article Eighteen was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum stood to tell the Society that the Wall of Fame procedure had been moved to Traditions, the duties for each committee had been reordered to make them more logical, and the Finance Committee was no longer required to complete a yearly budget.

Ms. Sullivan rose to address a problem she saw in the section requiring the Finance Committee to approve all rentals of the Hall, including the short notice she had received on several occasions from prospective renters and the precarious position of renting the Hall in the University's eyes.

Mr. Van Meter agreed with Ms. Sullivan's sentiments, and suggested that this problem possibly be addressed in a separate amendment during Fall Quarter.  However, he stressed that since this section was unchanged from the old Constitution, it could not be amended tonight and thus should not be a factor in deciding one's support for the Article.

Mr. Stuart rose and agreed with Ms. Sullivan, noting that this problem regarding our status as caretaker of the Hall had long been in question.  He said that we should always have some sort of approval system, however, beyond the Treasurer's discretion.


The question was called and passed 12-1.

Article Nineteen was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum outlined the proposed changes.  The question was called and passed 13-1.

Article Twenty was untabled. Mr. Pyrdum said that the fine for dereliction of duty had been omitted unwittingly, but could be reintroduced at a later time.

Mr. Stuart rose to object to the excuse of ignorance by a new member when appealing a fine, but when it was brought to his attention that this existed in the previous Constitution as well, he withdrew his objection. 


The question was called and passed 13-0.

Article Twenty-One was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum said that the only change was the establishment of a rule requiring 3/4 of the full-voting members to be present for impeachment proceedings to be held.  The question was called and the amendment passed 11-1.

Article Twenty-Two was untabled.  Mr. Pyrdum said there was nothing changed.  It passed 12-0. 

Article Twenty-Three was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum explained that this section was mostly reworded, with particular emphasis placed on the fact that no working keys could be passed down.  The question was called and passed 12-1.

Article Twenty-Four was untabled and Ms. Spornberger took the floor, noting that the point system had been changed to eliminate fractions of points, but that all of the awards were still the same in relation to one another.  Also, a point for recruitment was added, as was a point for serving as a Historian's assistant.  The question was called and passed 13-0.

Article Twenty-Five was untabled and Ms. Spornberger explained that the process for checking out a book had been clarified and that the fine for losing a book was increased.  The question was called and passed 13-0.

Article Twenty-Six was untabled and Ms. Spornberger told us that no changes had been made.  The question was called and passed 13-0.

Article Twenty-Seven was untabled and Mr. Pyrdum rose for the last amendment of the evening.  He said that these traditions would be binding, and that several items, including the oaths, had been moved here from other Articles.  A "sacred book" section was also added which required certain books to remain separate in the library and could not be removed.  All references to the Memorandum of Understanding were removed.  The question was called and passed 13-0.

After a few brief "thank-you's" from the chair and the floor, the Society adjourned at 10:50.

Respectfully submitted on the Sixth of June, 1996,

Ryan J. Van Meter, Secretary