Minutes of the DLS: April 3, 1997

 

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The meeting was called to order at 7:30 in the PM. Two first-time guests were recognized and clapped down. Two second or third-time guests were likewise recognized. Mr. Stuart was appointed critic.

President Choi, as part of his Spring Quarter Objectives address to the society, stated that we were a society on the cusp, and said that we must undergo a massive decultification of the society, beginning with stepped-up publicity and hopefully ending with invigorating debate and many new members. He also reminded us to remember the hall restoration efforts and to support the intersociety debate team.

In Committee Reports, Ms. Shillington rose to remind the members of the open house that would be today. Mr. Hortman presented the finance committee report, and the hall preservation report. $280 was approved for the PR committee. Mr. Shumaker told all that Mr. Hodgins is indeed not returning to the society and no longer a justice. Also said that the debate team was decided and told all the criteria that went into the decision. Mr. Van Meter rose on behalf of the softball team, urged members to sign up and think of a name. Chief, “Wampum!” Ms. Brignac rose on behalf of the alumni relations committee and, also announced a secret meeting of women in the society, yes: coven Demosthenian, at some later date. For what reason? You may not want to know.

In Old Business, Mr. Bowman reminded us of the activities fair and makeshift debate on Tuesday. Also called for members to sign up for committees and told of historic homes and Gardens tour the next Saturday. Ms Mingledorff presented the hard­cover copy of College Life in the Old South that WILL NOT leave the hall. Two more paperback editions were also donated and can be checked out. Mr. Hortman rose to say that the hall was rented out for a wedding on that Saturday.

In New Business, Mr. Van Meter rose and said that two stupid things happened this week, stupid enough to warrant the infamous Brick Heap award. He was a real man, and chose, over the testosteroni Norwegians, to present: Be it resolved, The Spring Quarter Brickheap Award shall be given to Heaven’s Gate for their abrupt entry into an alternate state of being (i.e.: they’re dead). Be it Further Resolved: The Secretary shall e-mail the group’s website to notify any stragglers of their dubious honor before they depart into the cosmos. Respectfully Submitted, Ryan J. Van Meter, Philip Gable, Nancee E. Tomlinson

Mr. Hortman rose to agree with the presenter.  Said that the leader of the cult looked plain scary.

Mr. Pyrdum rose to disagree with the speaker. Said that all religions are the same and that you can’t understand being castrated and eating pudding unless you arc indoctrinated into it. Besides, wackos wouldn't understand a letter.

Mr. Gable Said web-geeks care, No offense. But if we send a letter to them, we will definitely irritate somebody. Agreed with resolution.

Mr. Hudson said that he would be scared that aliens might want to harm him if he writes the letter. too much X-files, maybe?

Ms. Shillington said that the Heaven’s Gate people weren’t all that crazy, then lambasted the “testosteroni” men in Mr. Van Meter’s other resolution.

Mr. Smith reviewed the qualifications for what is a “cult”, and said that the Heaven’s Gate was more of a  “religious belief.” He feared the labeling of other religious beliefs as cults and claimed the Norwegian guys were stupider.

Mr. Shumaker talked about Dr. Will Power, and cited an example to show that whatever you believe helps you live a better life is OK, and not necessarily stupid.

Mr. Weir said Heaven’s gate is/was not a religion. Religions are sacred and special, but Heaven’s Gate people were stupid.  “We should spit on them.”  Supported resolution.

Mr. Brantley said he has never seen anyone rise from the dead, and also that we cannot judge others for their religious beliefs. Said the Heaven’s Gate folks are more rational than those drunkards downtown. I resemble that remark.

Mr. Miller said that we were made to be individualistic (i.e.: selfish), also we’re made to be social. said Heaven’s gate people were acting rationally.

-- At this time, the other resolution was presented, to be voted on following the first. It read: Be it Resolved, The Spring Quarter 1997 Brickheap Award shall be awarded to the group of Norwegian males who turned to self-mutilation and ultimately decapitation with a chainsaw to prove their manhood, and Be it Further Resolved, The secretary shall determine the exact origin of the story and send a letter to the local newspaper, notifying them of their citizen’s dubious honor. Respectfully Submitted, Ryan J. VanMeter.

Ms. Brignac rose to say that religion has 2 parts, history and faith.  Said a cult is a religion and we should respect their faith.

Mr. Gable rose to say that he was an iguana.  and that his religion had a porpoise.

 

The question was called and the first resolution failed 6-7, the second resolution passed 8-5.

 

Mr. Bowman rose to lament waiting for the presentation of his resolution. Talked about getting mad at his television and at the newspapers. He presented: Be it resolved, The Dallas Morning News’ printing of alleged Timothy McVeigh defense documents constitutes a dangerous abuse of the freedom of the press. Respectfully Submitted, Derek Bowman.

Mr. Van Meter rose to say that the government doesn't have the right to stop the printing of controversial material, but that prudence is needed, by the press and the viewing public. We all must take responsibility to push ourselves back up the “slippery slope.”

Mr. Hortman said the previous speaker proved the point of the resolution, and that the published documents may be damaging personally to McVeigh, let alone to his trial. Definitely a dangerous abuse.

Mr. Miller rose to agree with the intent, but disagree with the wording. Said unscrupulous journalism doesn't really hurt society as a whole.

Ms. Cunningham agreed that the media is not really interfering with Mr. McVeigh, and that individual journalists are not damaging to the case.  Said that if a large group of people got angry about smut in the newspapers, it would change.  But they don't.

 

The question was called and the resolution passes 12-2

 

Mr. Pyrdum rose to read from Terry Pratchett.  We all fly on the back of the great turtle. Said we must battle chaos.  He presented: Be it Resolved, Relativism will get you nowhere.  Respectfully Submitted, Carl S. Pyrdum III.

Mr. Hortman said that running your life on absolutes is dangerous.  “Pure” relativism may be just as dangerous, but we need a mix of both. America was built on a form of relativism: Compromise.

-- After this, Mr. Pyrdum presented a friendly amendment to add the word “pure” before the word “relativism”.

Ms. Cunningham said nothing.

Mr. Smith rose as an Aristotelian, but in the absence of knowledge believes that it is vain to assume we can define the forms. He said that there may be many facets to the absolute, but there is one.

Mr. Miller agrees with the previous statement, and used the presenter's handwriting to prove his point. He believes in a lot of things ending in “ism”.

Mr. Tester (guest) rose to say that the concept of pure relativism is a paradox.

Mr. Hudson rose to say that pure relativism is the path to Heaven’s Gate, but not absolutely.  Said that relativism helps us to learn and grow as people.

Mr. Gable went on a Star Wars Trip with absolutes, and said that multiculturalism disproved relativism, which is true, “from a certain point of view.”

Mr. Choi stated that all humans share absolutes, such as, if he pokes you really hard, you’ll bleed. No comment.

The question was called and the resolution passed 11 - 1, me, Al Frankin

 

Mr. VanMeter rose next to say that Spring quarter 1969 had lots of famous guests, but not much debate. Also, that Dr. Saye reinstituted an institution by donating 250 books to the library in that same year.  He Presented: Whereas, his contributions to the collection formed the bedrock for the re-establishment of one of our greatest resources: our library, Be it Resolved: The library of the Demosthenian Literary Society shall heretofore be named the Albert B. Saye Memorial Library.  Be it further Resolved: A plaque or sign shall be obtained and displayed in the library reading thus, as a testimonial to Dr. Saye’s contributions to both the library and the society as a whole.  Respectfully submitted, Ryan J. Van Meter, Ann Marie Mingledorff, Jason C. Hortman.

Mr. Hortman said Dr. Saye was responsible for the society that we have today.  Agreed with the presenter

The question was called and the resolution passed 13-0

 

Mr. Miller rose to inform the society that ignorance comes from a lack of information.  He presented: Be it resolved, Fear is the mindkiller.  Submitted, Billy Miller.

Motion was made and accepted to send the resolution to programs committee for possible roll-call debate topic.

Motion was then made and accepted to adjourn at 11:05, subject to Ms. Shillington’s substitute critic’s report.

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Respectfully submitted this Tenth day of April, Nineteen Hundred Ninety Seven,

Leonard D. Hudson, Secretary